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  • Dein Mod ist zwar schon ganz gut, aber ist es absicht das der Setra dann nur 70 km/h vmax fährt?


    Normalerweise sollte der ja locker die 100 km/h schaffen.
    Zumindest hatten die Busse der Autokraft meistens immer auf der Heckscheibe einen 100 km/h Aufkleber.


    Oder kommt das noch in einem Update?


    Gruß


    Sven

  • so also der mod S215 ul geht net bekomm zugriffsverletzung die logfile besteht noch aus anderen zueg und am O405 N2 der ist unsichtbar wen die map fertig geladen hast


    hier logfile


    Start logging
    ====================


    Date: 25.02.2013
    Time: 16:01:32


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  • Dann wären 3 Gänge doch schon arg unrealistisch. 5 fände ich optimal, aber letztenendes bleibt es deine Entscheidung.


    Warum? Es ist alles nur eine Frage der Übersetzungen. Selbst die auf Amerika spezialisierten 3-stufigen Voith DIWA863 konnten 100 Km/h erreichen. Anstatt bei der Portalachse 5,74:1 zu verwenden nutzt man 5,2:1 und schon ist man schneller unterwegs. Auch die Reifenwahl ist entscheidend. Je größer, desto schneller. Erfordert allerdings auch mehr Power. Die Endgeschwindigkeit lässt sich sogar Berechnen, sofern die Übersetzungen bekannt sind.


    Als Beispiel Voith DIWA 864.3E
    Übersetzung im letzten Gang: 0,74
    Portalachsübersetzung: 5,2
    Reifengröße: 0,94
    Maximale UPM des Motors: 2200


    2200/0,74=2972 -> Die Kardanwelle dreht sich im letzten Gang bei maximaler Motordrehzahl mit 2972 upm
    2972/5,2=572 -> Durch die Achsübersetzung dreht sich die Achse nur noch mit 572 upm
    Jetzt muss dies nur noch auf die Reifengröße übertragen werden
    (0,94*3,1415)/60*572=28,152*3,6=101 km/h
    Müsste stimmen

    ^^

    Aber so kann man sich das ein wenig leichter machen, bzw besser vorstellen.

  • Zu deiner Umfrage.


    Dieser Setra S 215 SL mit MB OM 427 h Motor hat eine Höchstgeschwindigkeit von 86 km/h.
    Wenn dann solltest du die Vmax diesem Bus anpassen, da der S 215 UL ja nur diesen Mercedes Motor oder einen MAN Motor hatte, soweit ich das weiß.
    Also ich würde das realistisch umsetzen.

    ;)


    Dieser hier hat auch ein 4. Gang Getriebe plus Rückwärtsgang, also solltest du eher eine Version machen mit 4 Gang Automatik von ZF.


    http://www.omnibusarchiv.de/Typenblatt/000097.pdf


    Wahrscheinlich haben die Setra's auch eine 100 km/h Zulassung da sie ja schneller als 80 km/h sind.


    Gruß Sven

  • Also ich würde 110 km/h noch besser finden, denn der einzige 215er der bei uns noch im Betrieb ist, hat ne 110er Zulassung. Das aus dem ganz einfachen Grund, wenn wir den mit Schülern über ne kleine Autobahnstrecke schicken, kann er, logischer Weise schneller fahren. Und ja: Wir setzen ihn noch ein, für so kleine "unbedeutende" Fahrten, damit uns die Schüler nich die gazen neuen Setras (unter anderem haben wir einen 517HDH) verneelen (äh, zerstören, das andere war platt).
    KEINE Diskusion über die Geschwindigkeit.

  • Ich bin mir da mit der Gesetzlichen Lage nicht im Klaren, aber im Betrieb habe ich 110 km/h Hinterfragen können. Und wir haben eine 100 Plakette auf den Busse, was mir gerade nach der Logik her sagt, das es stimmt was du sagst. Ich werde mich morgen nochmal bei unseren Fahrern erkundigen.